FoundersGroup
Dedicated to American small business.
Small businesses and their founders have long formed the spine of America. They employ 50% of Americans, and they hold up communities.
As popular focus shifts to large corporates, consulting, and acquisitions — we run the risk of losing the fundamental lessons about business and life that only small business can teach.
Our mission is to partner with established small business founders to ensure that their business knowledge and hard-won lessons are preserved for future generations.
Making Payroll
A new kind of business school.
Our conversation from July 16, 2026
Should You Be Using FAKE Bonuses To Motivate Your Team?
with Mark Gibson, Founder of National Fire & Vent Service of the Rockies
About the show
Making Payroll is an interview show where we share stories and lessons from established founders. These founders have hard-won lessons about business and life that aren’t available anywhere else. But, over the next 25 years, as folks retire and companies change hands, many of these lessons and millennia of collective experience may be lost, unless someone writes them down. Making Payroll is where we record these stories and the knowledge within them for future generations.